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to dig through the latest jobs number to make the case president obama has not pit pay dirt just yet. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month. and the unemployment rate has come down very slowly, but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> still, one of romney's key metrics on the president's handling of the economy went up in smoke, when the nation's unemployment rate dipped below 8%. >> 8% unemployment for over how many, 43 months? >> we still have unemployment above 8%. >> he told us he would get us back to work and hold unemployment above 8%. >> unemployment month after month after monday. >> reporter: it's a political bar mitt romney has accused the president of failing to clear for months. >> we've had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. if i'm president, i will help create 12 million new jobs in this country, with rising incomes. >> reporter: but romney knows the president has fallen short of estimates set by the administratio

. obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. that's already offered in the private marketplace. you don't have to have the government to mandate that for that to occur. but let's come back to something that the president and i agree on which is the key task we have in health care is to get the cost down so it's more affordable for families and then he has his model for doing that. a board of people at the government and unelected board, appointed board who are going to decide what kind of treatment you ought to have. in my opinion, the government is not effective in bringing down the cost of almost anything. as a matter of fact, free people and free enterprises trying to find ways to do things better are able to be more effective in bringing down the costs than the government ever will be. your example of the clevelainicy case in point. this is the private market. these are small -- these are enterprises competing

to vote for obama, the number of people who do not pay federal income tax, and the number of people who receive some sort of federal benefit, that that is all the same 47%. i doubt we will hear that again. >> anybody want to disagree? >> probably not. i do not know if that -- it was for consumption by a very small public. those with big wallets. >> that gives you an important aspect of our fact checking. we focus on the big, national messages, but we know there is lots of micro-targeting going on that is using very precise media to hit very precise audiences. we are not seeing that. we try, we asked readers to submit ideas through facebook and e-mail and what ever. we get a tiny portion of that. i think the case in point, this mailing i got from the romney campaign, maybe that is not going to be a message we hear romney assert at the debate, but it is clearly won the campaign is continuing to make. talk to campaign people, they will tell you, hey, you do not know about the ads you did not see that are running in tiny markets in ohio and florida and what ever. i think there are plenty of

number is so important to jobs, to various campaigns, isn't it smart to have obama donors in as economists in the department of labor statistics? >> and let me tell you, there's no law against giving money. these are not major-- you're making it out like somehow george soros is running the department. ridiculous, eric. >> and you attacked me on something about the-- >> the confidence has been going up for months, this is not something that's based on-- >> i think two statistics that do matter in here to people. whether or not they would pay attention to them. one is the participation rate. >> yes. >> you have that few people, the lowest it's been since 1962. >> let's look at why that is. because more people close to retirement age are deciding that they-- >> that's been debunked several times. >> they're unemployed and-- >> no, no, no, they're taking early retirement and deciding you know what? >> and the line that bob beckel tried to use and it actually does not pan out and the second one is that take home pay is not keeping up with inflation. and inflation is higher so t

this morning. to 7.8 and employers added 114,000 jobs. the numbers come at a critical time for president obama as a tightening in the race as a result of barack obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say i can't go back to work, i'm going to stay home and drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> the president clearly sees today's numbers good news for his campaign,

hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. they can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing with the weather or the weather service. i'm not sure which. they impute all of this power to him. it's dark power. it's evil power. because they can't deal with the fact that he had a plan, he implemented t

. >> his rival president obama who is in day number three of debate camp in nevada dropped by one of his own campaign headquarters. >> it was very nice, you know. although, basically, they are keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they are making me do my homework. >> despite the best efforts, the drum beat is building. it's getting louder and louder with great debate expectations on both sides of the aisle. >> i expect the tone to be a little bit less aggressive than people might be expecting. i expect the content to be pointed and sharp and specific. i think you can go into combat without having to raise the decibels too much. i expect the tone to be a little bit less aggressive than people might be expecting. i expect the content to be pointed and sharp and specific. i think you can go into combat without having to raise the decibels too much. >> joining me from the obama campaign headquarters in chicago is national press secretary for obama for america. we did have a sound bite from congresswoman debby wasserman schultz. if we get that cued up, let me know and we'll cut to it

national numbers out today on the presidential race. quinnipiac university has president obama leading mitt romney 49% to 45%. that lead is all about the gender gap. in the poll, the president leads romney by 18 points among women. while romney holds a 10-point advantage among men. peter brown is assistant director of the quinnipiac university polling center and joins us from washington, d.c. can you tell from the polling what specifically feeds into the gender gap? are women happier with president obama or is this just an anti-romney vote? >> historically, women are more likely to be democrat, men republican. women see a greater role for government overall. not a single here or there, but overall. they are less tax averse than men tend to be. men tend to be more tax averse. they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are

with barack obama, number one. and that what mitt romney has to do is convince people that four years from now a mitt romney presidency will be better for their personal lives. they understand on the likability question of which the president beats mitt romney so handily, they're not about to convince all these people suddenly to turn around and say, oh, we like mitt romney more than we like president obama. what they're going to try and do is say you like him enough and he can do the job and he's better able to fix things. so he's not going to try and be bill clinton here, i feel your pain. but what he's going to try to do is say i'm focused on your concerns. >> can a debate like tonight's debate really change the direction of this campaign? >> i think it can accelerate or decrease momentum one way or another. and i went back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did bette

? it will probably last until the next debate. >> numbers get to with lou dobbs going to help president obama. >> bill: what about the race deal? cookie stuff, we know where it comes from and who is generating it. we don't take it seriously. it is so far out there. these people, i guess they believe what they say marianne, it's offensive to everybody else, is it not? >> look, style does matter. make no mistake about it. what voters are looking for from the president the other night was someone who is going to fight back. >> bill: are you dodging my question about race, marianne? are you dodging it now? >> no. not at all. >> the guy said obama couldn't talk frankly because is he black, marianne, and you say, what? i say that's not true. >> fight back that's not true. powers, what do you say? >> it's insane. that's not true and insane. why do these people do it? i mean, if this injecting race into this. >> they are trying to make excuses for a very bad performance. >> the air was too thin al gore and he couldn't talk because is he black. >> desperation, really it is. >> bill: desperation too ki

unemployed or given up hope of being employed. >> i heard people like barack obama say the numbers were cooked, were fixed. former ceo of g.e. >> jack welch. >> jack welch say they were fixed or something? >> he said definitely those guys from chicago they can't debate so they're cooking the books. >> bill: do you take that seriously? >> no. i do not take it seriously. i have to say jack welch gave us a good laugh because he he was serious. >> bill: welch believes these are bogus numbers? >> that's what he said. it's the kind of nonsense what's really book here. 50,000 they survey the establishment survey it's called services and government is about 150,000 there is a lot of volatility. people going around saying this hasn't happened in 30 years. >> bill: in your opinion though, there are more jobs being added pushed from full time into part time. they are younger, less educated. unskilled. lower paying. >> if you are working part time you come off the unemployment rolls, that goes into the unemployment rate. that's a legitimate thing to talk about this is important. 14.7% unemployment

that the unemployment rate for september was right there, 7.8%. the obama campaign out to that go number to show that the recovery is picking up steam, but republicans say the actual jobs picture is far bleaker because that number doesn't account for millions of americans who are underemployed or simply given up for work. it sounds like this political battle may have gotten the start from controversial tweet from jack welsh? >> he is one of most respected former ceos. within minutes. jobs report. he tweeted this. quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. despite no evidence that the numbers were cooked, he refused to retract that statement. he did tell cnn he might have added a question mark if he were to do it again. republicans are using them as evidence of a stagnant economy. >> we want to return to full unemployment. what we have -- full employment. but we have seen 37 months in a row of private sector gains. it's far better than losing 100,000 a month as when george bush was in office. >> what is disappointing, the down tick on em

. >>> we begin with news on the unemployment rate. down to the lowest number since president obama took office. his campaign says that proves the president's policies are working. republicans argue the numbers are down because people are just giving up. doug mcelway with details of the latest disagreement. doug? >> the controversy surrounding the release of the september unemployment numbers continues to it swirl after one of america's most respected ceos took to twin citieser to find up off this tweet. "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't dewait so change numbers. peacing a torrent of criticism for the defeat. welch struck about the criticism of the number. >> who is participating. who is not working. who is trying to work but has dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question i think there ought to be a good discussion aut how this number is calculated. >> most analysts are dismissing welch's criticism as utter early without evidence while at the same time pointing out that the jobs numbers largely reflect an obama econom an obat has th

pointing out that the jobs numbers largely reflect an obama econom an obat has the economy still stuck in neutral. >> the policies that the president put in place actually made it worse. including the fact that obama care is causing small employers not to hire because of rising healthcare costs. >> former white house press secretary robert gibbs today also touched on the jack welch tweet. >> you wonder why institutions in this country are the perception of institutions in the country are failing because people go on tv and make stuff up. ask for the evidence and he said he had none. >> we continue to make progress. 31 consecutive months of private sector job growth. certainly we are not where we want to be. >> many analysts who combed through the unemployment data released attribute the decline to a big increase in part-time work. people looking for full-time jobs unable to find them and they are settling for part-time jobs. there were some 582,000 new part-time jobs created last month. the bureau of labor statistics categorizes the number as "part time for economic reasons." not exact

lower unemployment number usher the president into a second term? we'll talk to the obama campaign's vice chair, jan schakowsky. >>> topping our political headlines, mitt romney is out with a new podcast this afternoon, in which he attacks president obama over his debate performance. >> president obama could not defend his record. he offered no new ideas for how to fix the economy. i welcome the chance to share my vision for renewed prosperity and opportunity and i think it compared quite favorably to president obama's policy for big, trickle-down government. >> this past hour, mitt romney's son, josh, met with reporters in the swing state of virginia. it's part of a day-long effort the campaign is calling super saturday, with volunteers going door to door in battleground states. president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these

is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van hollen, that's his sparring partner. van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the hou

the swagger and overconfidence is gone and i would call it anxiety for them today. this is the way the obama campaign tried to react. number one, they put out the first tv ad calling mitt romney dishonest. david plouffe, the senior strategist for the campaign and, of course, inside the white house, used the word "dishonest" or not being honest nearly a dozen times when briefing reporters this afternoon. so they're trying to put the focus on mitt romney and saying hey, he gave a great performance, but wasn't exactly honest. we'll see. it was rally therapy out here though, brian. he did have 30,000 people show up in madison. >> chuck todd, peter alexander with the view from the trail, wrapping it up for us tonight. gentlemen, thanks. >>> we have two big and still developing stories tonight having to do with how we all get around. on the east coast and the west, beginning with new troubles for american airlines. and for that, we want to go to tom costello. in our d.c. bureau. tom? >> reporter: hi, brian. american airlines is tonight saying it is going to ground all 48 of the suspect 757s that h

the number was fixed to make president obama look good. the fact remains, conservatives have been shoving these unemployment rate numbers to the president's face for the last three and a half years. now it's come back to bite them. they hate it. they can't stand it. it's success under obama. and if it works for them, well, it's the truth. if it works against them you know what it is? a conspiracy, a lie. you know what it is? it is pathetic. you want a real conspiracy? i'm going to give you a real conspiracy here tonight. an entire political party in washington, d.c. you know this. has spent nearly four years making sure no legislative action was taken on jobs. when president obama approached them with solutions to get people back to work, they rejected them immediately, said no. they even said in public, their number one goal was to make barack obama a one-term president. when they executed this strategy, what did they do? they damaged the country. do you call that economic patriotism? i don't. this is what a job growth has looked like over the past three years. now take a look at what ha

until the election day, and the obama campaign has just released a staggering fund raising number. george stephanopoulos is here to talk about who has more momentum heading into this final month before the election. >> 30 days to go, as you say, and look who is getting the last word on the presidential debate. he found himself in the cross fire, and last night, big bird hitting back. he went on "snl." he really is big when you see him next to a human being and he was, let's just, say diplomatic about the whole thing. we'll tell you what he said coming up. >>> but first ginger sow with more on that freeze warning in parts of the country. we're wearing long sleeves, ginger. >> i felt it this morning as did so many millions of americans across the nation. let's start with a look at just how cold it is this morning. it's not just freeze warnings, but it's freeze watches, frost advisories that cover the nearly two dozen states this morning. amarillo even, 37 degrees, wichita is 36. kansas city, right above the freezing mark. now, what happens is we look for today's highs, and that's wh

and this morning an eye-popping number. president obama announced he has raised nearly a billion dollars in campaign cash. meanwhile, mitt romney riding his post-debate momentum into a must-win state for him, florida, it's "your voice, your vote" and abc's david kerley is in orlando with 30 days to go. david, good morning to you, sir. >> reporter: good morning to you, dan. you know, mitt romney is really trying to build on that debate momentum, so he's spending another day here in florida where the campaign says that the race is tightening, and romney got one of his biggest crowds ever last night in a state he really has to win. [ cheers ] >> that was a florida welcome. thank you so much. >> reporter: one of mitt romney's biggest crowds ever, more than 6,000 supporters near orlando in a state he needs to win. >> we're going to overcome the challenges we have. i'm counting on florida to win this for me on november 6th. >> yes. >> reporter: the crowd energized about the candidate's chances after that first debate. >> when it came to jobs and the economy, he doesn't really have anything to

't debate so change numbers. chicago guys presumably meaning the obama campaign. we will talk to him about that. congressman alan west said this on his facebook page. in regard to today's jobs report, i agree with jack welch. chicago style politics is at work here. conservative commentator laura ingraham said obama's october surprise, thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau of labor statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of labor statistics, highly trained, highly skilled ph.d.s, economists, statisticia statisticians, folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades and it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> hilda solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before each monthly report. the bureau of labor statistics gets around -- calls around 60,000 households and ask

and department of labor measures unemployment, number one, and b, maybe you think barack obama's not doing a good job and mitt romney should be replacing him. but to honestly suggest that there's corruption, that the obama campaign may have had something to do with cooking these books, why do you need to do that at a time when u.s. trust for government and institutions is at an all-time low. that is not good for society. what does jack welch gain by introducing this? there are so many ceos who talk nonsense. what do you gain from this, jack? why don't you take this opportunity to take it back? >> i love you. i'm not talking nonsense, okay? >> i love you more, jack, but fix this. >> wait a minute. wait a minute before we have this lovefest. i told you that these numbers are implausible. we don't have a 5% gdp growth in this quarter. we don't have it, ali. we revised the second quarter down, i'm involved in 14 businesses, i've been looking at them over the last week. the third quarter is not strong. it's not strong, from restaurants -- >> okay. let me ask you this. let me ask you this, jack. i agre

in each of those states. other battleground states as well, those we'll see state number two. the obama campaign will celebrate this new national number. here's the key question heading into the battleground states, in colorado where the race has gone up, nevada where it's gone up, essentially flat in new hampshire and north carolina, how does this new national number no question good for the president play out in those states? >> john, both candidates obviously reacting to the jobs report today. governor romney saying this isn't a real recovery. we need more job growth. that's what he says. the president says it's a reminder that the country has come very far so far and he's not going to be turning back. so who's right? >> again, it depends on your perspective. the job growth is not as robust as either candidate would like. you need essentially 150,000, some economists say close to 200,000 jobs a month to keep a flat line and begin to turn the rate down more. look at some of the other data. if you look here's job creation. remember, this is the end of the bush administration, early oba

contentious in a highly charged political atmosphere. first the numbers, and then the controversy. the labor department says the unemployment rate fell to 7.8% in september, a drop of 0.3% from august. the current rate is the lowest level since president obama took office. >>> but timing, we all know, is everything. the report comes a month before the election and some obama administration critics are suggesting the books were cooked. jack welch the former ceo of general electric tweeted this. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, change numbers. he later came on "anderson 360" and said if he had that tweet to do over, again, he would have added one thing. >> so many politicians are saying these days, michele bachmann will say something that is factually not correct. not provable and say, look, i'm just asking the question. is it responsible to say i'm just asking the question, but these guys aren't doing anything, i'm just asking a question. >> i should have put a question mark at the end of that. >> so, you are kind of backing away from the chicago g

up, see that unemployment number and be encouraged. going forward if i was president obama i would do something else entirely. >> um, um, and hum. >> cenk: when we come back i'm going in a different direction. already, later in the program serious story about milwaukee police and abuse that led to a detainee's death. >> i watched that tape one time, and i can't watch it ever again. it broke my heart so bad that they just didn't help him at all. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> the idea that he could criticize the president on the down grading, when he led the charge to block a resolution. outrageous. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right now, we had a debate, and one of the things that mitt romney did obviously was that he didn't tell the truth. so it's okay. now president obama was not on his a-game, but he'll come in and straigh

't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very impressive number by president obama, and while he was, in essence, his cash on hand began to dwindle starting in may had he spent all the money on tv, this is going to get way in the weeds, but it's very important. if you're obama or romney, the money that you have in your own campaign treasury is the money most easy to spend with the biggest impact, and you're guaranteed, if you're obama or romney in getting the lowest unit rate, the lowest cost for the a tv spot buying from a tv station. outside groups like american crossroads have to pay a premium. president obama spends a dollar, we have to spend more than a dollar to get the same weight of television. a lot more of romney's money is found in the wallet of the republican national committee, and smaller money is found in the democratic national committee. what's that mean? if you use money from the democratic or republican national committees, you have to use what are are called combo ads in which you not only mention obama, but also democrats, or not just romney, bu

-- is obama debt. george bush is responsible for 5% of it. >> i don't buy those numbers at all. the debt was $1 trillion wh obama came into office. the noble prizewinner, the economist, estimates the cost of the iraq wars in the neighborhood of 5 or $6 trillion. by the time we pay veterans its >> all right, gary, let me switch topics for a little bit n. an introduce yesterday, mitt romney backtracked on his infamous 47% comment saying in this case, i said something that is just completely wrong. is that another etch a sketch moment for romney? >> it keeps the mitt romney weather vane question going. it would have been a better answer to have commit it come out the day the story came out than three weeks later. >> i can't wonder why romney's running from the 47%. everything he citizen true. 45, 47% of the people go one way, 45, 47% go the other way. we fight over the other 10%. it's certainly the case that obama has built out the victim economy, the dependency economy, the welfare economy. there are many, many people that obama has effectively created who conceptualize themselves in that

-- the point is that in boasting about the unemployment number the obama people are making too much out of one pops's number which everybody does but there's a fundamental truth that things are getting better. not as fast as they should by a long shot. maybe a quarter of the way back from the damage that was done by the financial crisis, but we are making our way back. >> when you look at both events, let me ask you to weigh in, how much did the race change this week? >> i think it changed -- i think romney helped himself but i think this is a clarifying event because now the republicans are enthusiastic about romney. while they're enthusiastic about ryan, the winner of this race will have real legitimacy. this is not going to be a thing where they say, well, he really didn't represent our caution. now that -- if the president wins re-election, then you're going to see sort of policies along the clinton line when it comes to tax on top earners. you're going to see the health care bill stay in place. you'll see regulation of wall street stay in place and see these things happen. if by the same

, if we sort of change that debate narrative and obama won it and then these numbers come out, people already starting to talk about the race being over. i think it would be even more significant. so just really points up how big that debate performance of romney was to overcome all this news that's been working against him for a while now. jenna: that is interesting painting that other scenario if it didn't happen that way but it did. in the news cycle over next several days, does it wipe out the debate performance by the president because these new numbers look more positive than expected? >> doesn't wipe it out. romney would much rather have these 8.3 and rising and the 7.8% does talk, let him talk about you who the recovery's moving apace. the more significant thing, jenna, though is what the polls were saying before any of this. suddenly we were seeing 57% of americans starting to say that they thought the country was in recovery. only 43% thought it wasn't. there is a real feeling out there, for whatever reasons that the economy is recovering. this little piece of news here may

know on our website, cnn.com/opinion, you posed these foreign policy questions to barack obama. number one, can you tell us specifically what the afghan troop surge accomplished? and this, can you guarantee that iran will not have acquired a nuclear weapon by the time you finish a second term in office? david frum, foreign policy seems to be one of the president's strengths, at least that is what some of these polls indicate. of the two questions we just showed, some of the questions you posed here in this ten questions for obama to answer piece, which is likely to be toughest for the president to answer and why? >> all right, well, i put foreign policy questions at the top, that's so core to a president's responsibilities, domestic, occupy the second half of the list. the tougher question would be the afghanistan question. this is the president's probably single largest scale foreign policy decision, the bin laden raid, a tough call and he's made many other decisions both public and secret. but he -- he campaigns strongly in 2008 oninding down the iraq war and escalating up the afghan

given up hope of being employed. >> viheard people who don't like barack obama today, say the numbers are cooked, fixed. doesn't what's his name, the former ceo of g.e. -- >> jack welch! he said, the guys from chicago can't debate so they are cooking the books. >> do you take that seriously? >> no. but he gave us a good laugh because apparently, he was serious. >> he believes -- >> i think -- >> he believes that they are bogus numbers. >> it's when he said. it's the kind of nonsense eye mean, the last thing -- anyone should be looking at in these numbers is somebody cooking the books. what is really at work here, there are two survey, one of 50,000, they survey the businesses and they survey the households. the establishment survey as it's called of businesses and government is about 150,000. and the survey of households is about 50,000. so there is a lots of volatility. there are people saying, this hasn't happened in 30 years -- nonsense. e >> in your opinion, there are more jobs being added. but most of these jobs are part-time jobs itch they are part-timions, people who have bee

't know what he was doing out there. he was in during the debate. >> president obama could have new worries today when thejobs numbers are released. economists predict it could go to 8.2%. >> an estimated 67.2 million people watched the debate between the president and mitt romney. that would be the largest television audience for presidential debates since 1992. president obama and mitt romney are set for two more debates. stay with abc 7 for continuing coverage of the presidential race. we will also have the latest information online at wjla.com. >> one of the men charged with killing an arlington health club worker scheduled to be sentenced today. roger clark pleaded guilty to first-degree murder in january. he was charged with stabbing carl diener to death as he worked to work in december 2009. clark's cousin is also charged in the murder and is scheduled to go on trial later this marked. a former parking charged with scam and parking fees the smithsonian museum in chantilly is expected to plead guilty today. he and two other people stole at least $400,000 from the facility. it

now, it's his attitude towards obama, and i think he's shocked that the number looks so good. he doesn't want it to look that good. this number is going to help the president. >> absolutely. so it's pure political. you shouldn't be then -- you're right, for an experienced business guy who people listen to and look to, to cast that kind of a ridiculous aspersion is actually quite damaging and shouldn't be done. let's talk about the number. >> how good is this news today? >> how good is it, did you say? >> yes. >> it's good news. it's not over the moon good news, but it's good news. i think you have to look at the payroll survey. there i think you see an acceleration of job growth, and, by the way, welch has a point. you should never take one monthly number. if there's a germ of something in there, you should never take one monthly number. you should average. if you look at the past three months, payrolls have been growing about 150,000 per month compared to about 67,000 per month in the prior three months. so that's a bit of an acceleration. a little momentum on the unemployment rate. >

of speculation on line on social media this morning, that the obama administration could be fudging the numbers. we took that question right to the secretary of labor this morning. she tells us it's ludicrous to say the numbers could be manipulated. >>> secret service has new policies in place after one of the most embarrassing scandals in the history. it would ban excessive drinking and the share of work related information on sites including facebook. this comes five months after more than a dozen employees of the secret service were accused of drunken partying with prostitutes. >>> american activists are planning to stage a protest against u.s. drone strikes, member of the antiwar group code papping planning to hold a rally in islamabad. they are saying the drone attacks killed innocent people, there are conflicting reports about drone casualties. civilian deaths or injuries are rare but others disagree with that. >>> greece's prime minister says his country can only survive until the end of next month. right now officials from the european commission, international monetary fund and europea

't believe there was a expiration. take your best shot. it's not a number that barack obama can really crow about. identify been saying for a very long time, people ignore the unemployment rate because it moves around in an unpredictable way. jobs added and jobs loss number is the one you can get your teeth into. not enough for barack obama to crow about. not that much for mitt romney to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your family, try paying your medical bills, try paying for all your other expenses like your mortgage with a 20 to 25 hour job. so, look. i think the american people still believe as i do, it's still a pretty miserable labor market out there. it's getting a little better but not a whole lot. >> diane swank is

to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your family, try paying your medical bills, try paying for all your other expenses like your mortgage with a 20 to 25 hour job. so, look. i think the american people still believe as i do, it's still a pretty miserable labor market out there. it's getting a little better but not a whole lot. >> diane swank is a chief economist. she joins us from chicago. diane let's talk about it. 7.8% unemployment rate. an improvement but we're not out of the wood yet. let's dealing with the real numbers. 1.1 million people unemployed in september. 40% of them have been unemployed for six months or more. as stephen just alluded to many jobs created are not of the quality you would like to see. what's

. as you might expect, president obama and governor romney saw these numbers quite differently and we have two reports tonight. first, nancy cordes covering the president and she's in cleveland. nancy? ncy?eporter: scott, you could practically see the relief on the president's face today and not just because this news helped to change the subject from his shaky debate performance. negh unemployment has been an albatross around his neck the past four years. today he mentioned the drop not once but twice starting in virginia. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. ( cheers and applause ) more americans entered the work errce, more people are getting jobs. >> reporter: around steady rain in cleveland where president esida shared a coat with the supporter who introduced him, he made it clear to a crowd of 9,000 that he understands there's still a long way to go. >> there are too many friends and neighbors who are still looking for work. any many families who are still struggling to pay the bills. and they were struggling even

: well as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. >> so it looks like unemployment is getting better, but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force, the day that the president got elected while the unemployment rate would be around 11%. and that's the real reality of what's happening on out there. >> 40% of the unemployed have been out of work six months or more. that number did not drop last month. economists say we need to add 200,000 jobs or more every month to make a dent in the unemployment rate. linda yee, cbs5. >>> in one bay area county, why some cities are being forced to import other people's garbage. >>> a california man dies from a disease we almost never see here in america. how a sick bat triggered an international health scare. >>> a new tool to find the cheapest airline tickets. how strangers are competing against each othe

to focus on. number 1, obama agreed there was no difference between them on social security. and obama agreed that neither of their medicare plans would hurt existing elderly or anyone about to retire. they disagreed on the $716 million that obama caught current retiree, but the medi-scare and the social security scare tactic can't be used because obama stipulated that that won't be a problem. i think by failing to raise the 45%, the cayman islands and the tax return and the bain capital, obama was basically conceding that those are not legitimate shots. how can you spend $200 million advertising to push these facts and then when you confront the guy, you don't mention them? >> greta: you see -- i actually thought that that was smart because he looks like he is above this. that he is more presidential. and he leaves the dirty work to somebody else and doesn't have fingerprints on it, if they are done in campaign ads and certainly, pac ads, rather than his own campaign. >> that's the point, greta. it's the president says this is not worth dignifying and making it an issue, this is not w

'll hear the latest number of the obama administration to step down in yet another government spending scandal. bill: a mid-air scare of the wrong kind. what if your seat comes loose? listen. >> we want the airline to succeed. the bottom line is that management isn't make the right decisions the airline can't succeed. bill: what is he saying? could this have something to do with a union dispute? bill: a peanut butter recall expanding. whole foods, target and stop and shop pulling several grand from their shelves after salmonella-related illnesses were linked to peanut butter sold at trader joe's. martha: a top obama appointee is out of a job after a report blasting his agency's $6 million conference tab. including this spoof of a hollywood classic. >> one of the worst mistakes you can make in carrying out your mission is getting the idea in your head that stability is a virtue. stability is not a virtue it's a trap. it means you are holding your own. it means you are standing still. martha: acting ratings aside. doug mcelway joins us from washington. we are hearing that film which was

the drum and say this is there a guy. but i think you will see that after tomorrow, obama's numbers will probably get even stronger. it's a shame they did this to us. if you had a strong candidates like ron paul, obama would not be able to stand on that stage. host: this on twitter -- we are getting comments coming to us from facebook -- ken edgett in dallas, texas, independent. -- kenneth in dallas. caller: i am strictly an independent thinker. i am going to watch the debate probably when i get off work. my thought is this, when is this country going to wake up and stop losing american lives and the whole middle east is ridiculous. it is in worse shape than it was 10 years ago. $3 trillion in debt and each side points to the other guy. the democrats were in control for four years, two under bush and two under obama, yet it was all bush's fault and nobody takes responsibility. that's the problem. the voters need to take responsibility and get rid of every one of the incumbents, it's maybe not in this election, but if they don't get this country straightened out and get the economy s

president obama took office in january of 2009. the number dropped because more people found part-time work. we expected the unemployment rate to inch up slightly. the unemployment number is worth watching closely, one more monthly report that comes november 2nd, four days before the presidential election. trading stocks gain yesterday weekly jobs report showing unemployment claims climbed by less than expected. how would you like a stwrob with your latte? starbucks hiring 20,000 over the next fife years as it opens 1,000 new stores. those -- knows currently working at starbucks, --. >>> before you pour another cup of coffee this morning, new study links too much coffee to a loss of eyesight. researchers phone people who drank a lot of coffee had a higher risk of developing a type of glaucoma. people who drank three or more cups of caffeinated coffee, per day were up to 66% more likely to develop the eye disease which can lead to blindness. researchers think it may be due in part that calf between increases fluid -- that caffeine increases fluid pressure in the eyes. >>> researchers tracked

's a conspiracy. i think the top line number is clearly something that president obama is going to tout. if you look underneath those top line numbers, we see that the rate of job growth is decelerating, not accelerating. that's a bad trend. you have a lot of people who are now counted as employed who actually took part-time jobs when they were looking for full-time jobs. and we continue to see people taking themselves out of the labor market. they're just giving up. we see manufacturing jobs now declining. so there's a lot of tough stuff underneath the headline number, but politically speaking, president obama is going to trump at the headline number, and mitt romney will try and talk about the fundamentals, and i think the facts are on governor romney's side, actually. >> so from one conspiracy to soot. we want you to listen to this. sticking with the economy and jobs, listen to what governor martin o'mally had to say about why things are not moving in the right direction. >> they want to slow the economy before the election. if you don't believe that, then i have a bridge i want to sell you

the numbers, savannah is, president obama's numbers sort of locked in place at 49. the fluidity is in mitt romney's number. >> chuck todd in denver this mornings thank you. >>> bill o'reilly is the host of "the o'riley factor" and author of the new book "killing camelot," in stores today. >> nice to see you. >> i've heard you say on your show polls don't really matter until after the debates which i take it to mean you do think these debates are incredibly important. >> from the very beginning i've said that because people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across os a regular guy which i'm not sure he can do. has to kind of drop the facade of being a politician, all right? the president really basically just has to maintain his cool demeanor. they are both not going to say anything startling. you've heard it all before, if you pay attention, but it's the way that romney presents himself. it's like ronald reagan against jimmy carter. reagan was behind when he started to debate carter, but he made carter almost look small. reagan was larger

as a nation. we have two types of diabetes and if obama is against them, well, america's number one news network is for one of them. (laughter) we'll be right back.=w (cheers and applause) welcome back. as anybody's commute involving even a passing thought of the east side of manhattan knows the u.n. general assembly is in town. i got to confess, i love it. because the u.n. is where you get to see countries go insane. whether it's khrushchev attack inindividualable table gnomes with his fist or qaddafi dressed like tyne daly throwing the charter around or hugo chavez complaining about the room's air quality. >> today the devil came here, right here. >> right here. and it smells of sulfur still today. >> jon: smells of sulfur pretty bold move of then president bush specifically since the charter specifically says that he who smellt it-- (laughter) shall be considered to have dealt it. anyway, given that history, the current state of the world, everyone was expecting some high drama during this week's session. >> and now to that showdown over iran. >> all eyes are on the united nation. >>

's number one priority. president obama preparing for tomorrow's debate but in nevada. he has not made any campaign appearances since sunday. romney says he would not deport any undocumented immigrants in the u.s. because of an executive order the president signed. they can stay for two years if they came before they were 16, are still 30 or younger, and meet other criteria. romney criticized the president for signing that executive order during an election year. he also said he would veto a bill that would grant a path to citizenship. >>> strong attacks coming from both sides, but now some residents in roanoke, virginia, say one anti-obama display goes too far. a man named curtis caldwell put up a statue on his front lawn that is a monkey wearing an obama mask. then it says no 'bama and a confederate flag. >> not trying to say obama is an ape or nothing. if i had a kangaroo, i'd put a kangaroo up there. i had a monkey. i bought that long ago in florida. i think we need to get him out of office. that's the primary thing i'm trying to say, get this man out of office. >> caldwell says he use

of anticipation as americans get the chance to draw direct comparisons, mitt romney is trailing barack obama in the polls in a number of key states but the president is under attack for failing to deliver jobs for voters. nowhere is that felt more than reno, nevada where the unemployment rate is the highest in the country. >> in the city nevada, reno is a little less vegas than las vegas it might be little but its voters could have a big impact on the elections. few places in america were worse hit by recession. inform has the highest unemployment rate in the country. barack obama won here comfortably four years ago. this time it will be closer. >> you're going to have a big choice to make, nevada. and it's not just choice between two candidates or two political parties. it's a choice between two different paths for this country. >> this is the other path. mitt romney, the businessman turned politician who is promising to turn the economy around slipped a little in the polls but it's still too close to call. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward t

he's an angry rich man. >> bob: come up with the numbers you talk about. obama has to defend numbers but so does romney. >> eric: what number does he have to defend? >> bob: how he will cut taxes and balance the budget? >> dana: he has a good answer. obama has a tougher time explaining how in 2008, he ran on one thing regarding taxes. in 2010 he changed his mind to protect his tail. then now his whole plan is against what he said in 2010, is worst thing to do for the country. >> bob: that debate has been out there and argued over and over for four years. the question is how romney says he will, not going to lose money cutting taxes because he is going to take away loopholes. he refuses to answer one question about the loophole. obama will push him. he should. >> greg: mitt has to say why did you cancel pipeline with 8.2% unemployment? >> bob: i'll answer if that if you answer which loopholes you will cut? >> dana: there you go again. >> bob: simple question, what loopholes are you going to cut on wealthy people? coming up, president obama uses heavy, heavy hollywood hitters in a new

's just over half of latinos who are eligible to vote. these numbers are key for both president obama and mitt romney. so, let's bring in melanie who is the democratic national committee's press secretary. good morning, melanie. we just showed you the potential clout of latino voters with those numbers, but, as we all know, location, location, location. so, here are the states whe latinos have a major presence. the purple, key battleground states there. the big question, melanie, could the latino voting bloc be the deciding factor in several of these swing states, do you think? >> well, i think they are definitely an important factor in this election cycle and when you look at the issues that latino families care about, health care, education, the economy, the president stands leaps and bounds ahead of mitt romney on those issues. >> let's look at this, you mentioned the economy. the latest orc poll. when asked about economic conditions today, 61% of latino voters said the economy is poor. what do you make of that and how critical is that? >> i think when you look at the president's w

"7.8% number is receipt real. go obama 2012." i'll be reading your tweets later on. @lakeswit. >>> former new jersey governor christie todd whitman. i asked her why mitt romney is viewed as being unable to connect with voters. >> i think part of it is the process that we have in place now with the two parties, the nominating process forces them to the right and to the left. because you're only looking at the base in your party. so you're appealing to a small group of people. and in order to get what has now become the republican base, he's been put in the position of which i don't think he's entirely comfortable. you can change your position. but so many things have changed in a fairly short period of time that i think people aren't quite sure. the far right doesn't think he's conservative enough. the moderates are unsure of where he's going to be as a president. is he going to be the massachusetts governor or is he going to be the person that they heard during the debates? and those are not necessarily the same people for him. >> can anybody effectively govern from anywhere b

the romney numbers . >> obama campaign said in the month of september they raised 181 million dollars. a biggest of either campaign so far this yoor. not as big as he was able to raise in the month of october in 08. no word for the romney campaign. but when i talked to staffers last night and discussed the obama total of over 181 million dollars. they all smiled and grinned and said perhaps we can top that. they haven't said that is the case. for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he i

are staying, it's smoke and mirrors with the number. the obama campaign is manipulating the numbers. on and on. i want to bring in rachel, white house editor for "politico." you've seen all of this. i saw people on, when those numbers came out, on television friday morning, there's no way this is right, what's going on, oh my gosh, the world is going to end! rachel, how do we measure the political impact of the jobs reports on the presidential race? is this the october surprise that we had been waiting for or not a big deal? >> somewhere in between the two. i would not go so far as to call it the october surprise. these numbers are notoriously volatile. one good month can be followed by a bad month and the next month is four days before the presidential election. but this was a very good end to a bad week for the president. really the best possible end that president obama could have hoped for. mitt romney came out so strong in that debate, president obama lackluster. he got called rusty. detached. not the words he was looking for. >> hold that thought, we're going to talk about that. i want t

numbers. barack obama's ahead in nearly every national poll and battle ground state poll. but what do we really make of the crunchers who say mitt romney has just a 1-5 chance to win this election? hi, i'm chris mathews. welcome to the show. with us today, new york magazine's john, trish and kelly and the huffington post's d howard. with just over a month to go for mitt romney, given the polls, the debates may be it. it could change the narrative that has dogged him or cemented. romney has the same urgent must-do list that he at the republican convention. only now could be his last chance. today we're going to look at romney's career, back at his career, at some missteps in past debates and also at some gems from barack obama. first up, first on romney's must-do list, get likable. and avoid this kind of reaction when governor rick perry charged that romney had hired illegal lawn workers. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. is that i get 60 seconds. and you get -- >> but the american people want the truth. the

electric took to torture and in the airways suggesting the obama campaign cooked the numbers. >> i do not know what the right number is. these numbers do not smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> many experts laptop the charge but the labor secretary was not laughing. >> i am insulted when i hear that. it is ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> here is robert portman who plays president obama in debate operations. we will be doing this on saturday before running hold two events in florida. abc news, orlando. >> a sudden standstill in chinatown last night. they're capturing this video. at least 20 demonstrators chanting a disparaging remarks about the obama and romney campaign. >> tonight, there will be another much anticipated public debate. we're not talking about president obama or mitt romney. john stewart of the daily show. the trash talking has gotten under way. some are promising that he will "beat bill o'reilly's liver." >> ready to rubber? >> bill o'reilly will face on this at 8:00 with jon stewart. >> do you see me as mitt romney? is that

alternative to barack obama. number two, everybody's been saying but obama is more likeable and after all, with he like to like our presidents, and last night who was the more likeable, in all of the snap polls by far it was mitt romney, not barack obama who looked like either he was having root canal or didn't want to be there. >> it was a drag, studying for it and a drag being there. >> ken, don't you think that beyond the aesthetics and cosmetics, there is a fundamental case that romney made when he said that the proof of the failure of the economic policies of the obama administration was in the fact that 50% of graduates cannot get jobs, that one in six americans are living in poverty. >> arianna, i thought all of those statistics were very compelling because they fit into the narrative that he had painted. and the narrative was that we could do better. this is not acceptable what obama has laid out or done in the last four years and there was an optimism to romney which could date nobody has really seen. the third part is something that i refer to as the bedroom test. it's also the

conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs numbers. jack welch wrote, unbelievable job numbers. the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate? they'll change the numbers. >> it's lead yous to hear that statement. >> the secretary of labor denies any political motivation, saying the numbers are real. so while romney launches tv ads promising to do better than president obama. >> i have a detailed floon create 12 million new jobs. >> obama is celebrating this report. >> this country has come to far. >> a bench mark proves america is on the right track. >> economists say the number of new jobs being created is still not enough to significantly lower the unemployment rate. the next jobs report comes out four days before the election. danielle lee. >> 66 degrees at the airport. dining out can be tough on a budget. baltimore magazine has a list of the top 25 places to get a meal for under $40. if pumpkin spice latte your thing during the fall? could be out of luck. details on a possible pumpkin shortage after the break. >>> cold front's coming in. could generate a little ra

heavily on president obama's shoulders last night. number one, no primary. he was rusty. number two, a record to defend. it's not that good a record. these things really weighed on barack obama. i would almost say to him call up hillary and have another grueling primary before the next debate. >> let me hear what anna tweeted, i feel for democratic spinners this morning. it's painful as blank to go in a spin room and know that your guy lost. been there. here's what a lot of people -- >> we're not pretending he won. >> you're not. >> i think it's clear on the mtsicmts atmospheres, on the debate that romney had a terrific night. >> no mention of the 47%. no mention of bain capital. didn't respond to a claim that he is cutting $716 billion from medicare. romney's taxes weren't mentioned. why, do you think? >> it's hard to know why. i think the president was not prepared to do battle. and, you know, either misjudged what the debate was going to be like or just was not prepared. >> richard, since you're not doing a strong job of defending the president today, there is one thing that i th

strongly for obama boem. recent numbers show latinos still favor the president, but they want to hear more about the issues that are most important to them. they don't want their vote taken for granted. miguel marquez has more. >> reporter: out of the shadows wanting their voices heard, their concerns on the agenda. >> tell me why you're here tonight. >> we're here asking both of the candidates to look at immigration in a more humane sense because none of them are doing so. >> latino students hope to hear something that spoke to them. they never got it. >> they have too many issues that i'm passionate about. i'm still waiting to hear. >> what are you passionate about? >> i would definitely say immigration, education. >> with the president who won 61% of colorado's latino votes in 2008, that same energy for many latinos just isn't there. >> four years ago barack obama, i had his back. he very much spoke to me, but now i'm hearing the same rhetoric that i heard four years ago. >> still, there are 400,000 latino votes in play across the state. both sides courting them heavily. >> mr. presiden

at the new numbers from our cnn orc poll. voters are asked which candidate would handle the economy, obama and romney are tied. romney appears to have an edge on the top two economic issueses unemployment, and the budget deficit. for obama he holds the advantage on domestic issues, education, medicare, taxes, immigration and health care. these noneconomic issues are the first topics up for debate wednesday night. voters will be judging the candidates personal qualities. obama's favoritability rating

president obama is at 92%. so these are not good numbers for the republicans if they really want to see the white house in november. >> amy, changing topics here. big bird. we can't not talk about big bird. he's become the big talker. pbs, though, just a small fraction of the federal budget, as obama is quick to point out. so why do you think the push by romney to end the funding? >> for big bird? >> well, for pbs, sure. >> right. well, he said he was a fan of big bird, but i think he used that as an example of a federally funded organization that he believes doesn't need that taxpayer money. it certainly does well with its own private funding drives. i mean, we're forever seeing pbs funding drives, let's face it. so governor romney was just simply illustrating a point that he would be willing to cut even popular things like big bird because he doesn't see that it's a federal responsibility. >> mitt romney now says that he was wrong about that 47% comment as well. listen to this. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and queion and answer sessions, now and

office. those jobs numbers were good news for president obama as he prepares to face off against mitt romney for their next debate. romney, who rallied in virginia yesterday, spends today in florida preparing for the next debate and will hold a debate victory rally this evening. the president is laying low at the white house with no public events today. he spent yesterday rallying supporters in the swing state of ohio. >>> this will certainly make the president smile. september proved to be a lucrative month for his re-election campaign. democrats raised $181 million. that's a record in. the last month of the campaign, that cash could prove crucial, especially for ad buys in those toss-up states. >>> we have some new developments in that shooting that killed a u.s. border patrol agent. the fbi now thinks he may have died by friendly fire. 30-year-old nicolas ivey was shot and killed this week in arizona. initially officials said ivey and his colleague who was wounded in the incident came under fire after responding to a censer that went off. but authorities say the only shell casings

your gut tell you? do the september job numbers erase president obama's performance at the debate in your opinion? take a look what the "news nation" said about yesterday's gut check. does wednesday night's debate reset mitt romney's campaign. 11% said yes, 89% said no. i'm sorry for the laughter, but someone made an abrupt move behind me and it scared me. i don't know what's going on. it's friday for the "news nation." thank you for joining us all week long. we're uploads new pictures from behind the scenes. go to our tumblr page and ush watch "news nation" every day at 2:00 weekdays. "the cycle" is up next. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> i'm toure. the unemployment rate is below 8%. we haven'

of disbelief and polarization where every time a new poll comes, whether it shows obama or romney up, i get people that say i don't believe those numbers. they're made up, and it's sad and something they have to deal with. >> it's not just the political media. let me tell you you something, john. that tweet it from mr. welch was retweeted not just by correspondents covering it. these are people on twitter, on facebook who somehow maybe are walking down the street and their neighbor says did you hearing what jack welch says, the numbers are cooked and that contributes to the toxic level where people have no confidence in anything. forget the polls because you can talk about sampling and whatnot. this is the economy. it's 114,000 jobs. it's not the goal number. let's be one of the 114,000 who didn't have a job last month, and now you have a check to put in the bank and maybe more food to put on the table and pay a couple of bills out there. those jobs count, john. >> this is a long-term trend in our culture, tamron. back from the 1960s collapse of respect for authority. we have the same accus

numbers this morning show obama holds a lead in ohio. a tie in virginia and florida. the candidates have been the swing states over the past couple weeks. now they will turn their attention to denver. they will share the same stage later tonight for their first presidential debate. tonight's focus will be about issues. you have heard a lot about that trail.campaign and the economy and health care. expected to be a lot of back- forth between them on those. those they are hoping to gain .omentum we have just a month before voters start heading to the polls. we will continue to follow this throughout the day. more coming up later on abc 7 news. back to you. >> thank you. just in time for the first is sculpted debate, head mold of the two atdidates now on display wax museum ins downtown d.c. they will have a kids election inent at the museum getmber where the children to choose which one they want. what the debate at 9:00 tonight 11:00, scott thuman will offer his insight. the examiner reports tim kaine purchased $3 million in ad time radio, and the internet. his campaign has spent $7 ads.on

the september jobs numbers in a few hours now. this has president obama hits the campaign trail correcting the record mitt romney presented on the stage in denver. with the combination of that first debate and the jobs number, will mitt romney be boosted? >>> a full 23 days now after the attack on the american consulate in libya that killed four americans, including the u.s. ambassador. the fbi finally arrives on site to investigate. the question is, three weeks later, is there anything left to investigate? >>> and bobby valentine is out in boston after just one

with the romney-ryan plan or it's four more years of barack obama. so even obama did get some good economic news. >> these job numbers show that the president has recovered every single job lost on his watch and then some. that makes the president a net job creator. >> stephen: there it is. obama is a net job creator. so congratulations to robert baird, the guy who got the job. (laughter) but millions of americans are still looking for work. particularly low skilled workers with no high school diploma who face a 12% unemployment rate. now my heart goes out to those blue color workers. all they know how to do is make stuff while we white collar workers have the education necessary to check our e-mail. the problem is, america has lost its good manufacturing jobs to places of cheap unregulated labor like china, vietnam, and the gulag beneath disney world. faster, chakor, they're running out of mickey pretzels. now how-- how is the u.s.-- mickey. (laughter) all for mickey, please don't sue. now how, how is the u.s. supposed to compete with countries where workers toil for pennies an hour? luckily, o

the economy would be president obama's undoing when you look at the numbers and the romney campaign asked a good amount of capital on the idea. doesn't seem to be working out that way. why not? >> well, it is interesting, the reason in large part why it is it isn't is the very people worst affected by the economy are diehard obama supporters. and they tend to be nonwhite, and they are very, very negatively affected by the economy. but they're also very devoted to mr. obama. he's not mr. rom -- mr. romney is not able to pry the people loose and get them republican. the african-american community has not voted republican in a large way in a very long time and it seems unlikely to change anytime soon. those are the key votes that put mr. obama over the top. that's fine. their votes are very, very important and they have a certain set of grievances, which are perfectly legitimate. they're allowed, of course, as anyone else is in this country, to vote how they please. but that i think explains why the economic problems are not hurting mr. obama more. >> a lot of people say style versus substan

a bird in the hand is worth three in the books. >> as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some endirgement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other sim to talk some political points. >> the truth is, if the same people were working on the force, why would the reality be over 40%. >> they have been out of work six months or more. economists say we need to hire $425 every month to make a dent. >>> another deadly officer involved shooting. only this time it happened in a usually quiet community in heyward. it all started this morning when police stopped a stolen car near briar gateway and vanned deer built street. what left next that a r left a neighborhood shot. >> i was inside of his. >> shoes and evidence markers. investigators pressuring and documenting the scene. it's the too familiar aftermath of another shooting. this one involving a heyward police officer that left the suspect dead. >> hi approached the vehicle. he ordered that occupant self times to show his hands. the suspect did not compl

to election day. barack obama and mitt romney are tackling a number of issues in denver. a pa judge expected to rule about a new state law requiring every voter to present a photo id at the polls opponents say it will deprive some people of their right to vote. today find out if the latest search for jimmy hoffa's body turned up clues. they dug through concrete. soil samples are looked at to be sure they contain human remains. >>> maceys is ramping up hiring , the retailer says it plans to bring in 80,000 seasonal workers. they are needed to staff sales floors, store operations and call centers and shipping centers for on line orders. >>> today is live strong day. send a message of support through facebook or twitter. each message means $1 for on going cancer research. ikea is under fire for removing women from the saudi arabia version of the catalog. to look at the difference, the one on the right is the saudi catalog, the one on the left is what you normally see. this raised questions about commitment to gender equality. in saudi arabia, a woman must have a man's permission if they want to

colorado. and in colorado we have got obama 41 and romney 43 obviously a bit of number of undecided. these are both within the margin of error, but both a bit troubling. >> both of these states have seen fairly consistent -- narrow but consistent leads for obama over the last several weeks, but again, this is not one of the leading national-most reputable pollsters you can take to the bank. >> jennifer: okay, so we have to wait and see what happens on month -- >> i think in the end not only the jobs numbers, but the approval number are the critical ones. >> jennifer: all right. thank you for bringing us the reality. and hopefully we get better news on month. up next if progressives don't have a clue on where mitt romney stands on the issues? how in the world are conservatives supposed to figure it out? i'm just saying. we're going to have j.d. hayworth who will play cat herder with this mitt romney fellow. and a sneak peak at the knew political thriller from after fleck. >> jennifer: well for weeks mitt romney stood by those 47% comments. the gop candidate said t

be manipulated by the obama administration. do you think that the numbers add up? >> i think the suggestion that the numbers was cooked is relatively ridiculous. that being said. economists at the labor department will admit freely that there is a lot of margin of error in these numbers. a month after each job report these numbers are revised upward or downward. the question of the number came out of the household survey, 800,000 plus number, there is a lot of margin for error, possibly as much as 400,000. that is admitted by folks within the labor department, as well. i think you can't get too hung up on the overall numbers because typically these are revised upward or downward. that tends to happen a month later when we stop paying attention. >> heather: what will the numbers do in terms of swaying voters' opinions, specifically undecided voter? do you expect to see a change in the polls as a result of this? >> it's a tough question. i generally think the jobs reports do not move as much of opinion of voting public with the amount of noise in the d.c. bubble so to speak. with all the rest

. and stan calendar and we'll find at new economic numbers. hopefully we've got good news. >> obama could use some good news. >> america could use some good news, but obama could really use some good news this week. >> but first . . . >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> on this friday some news you need to know good morning america is starting a big change, ann romney will sit alongside dave so cohost the program. nbc also in discussions with first lady michelle obama. >> that would be nice. ann romney she is running for first lady along with her husband, although mitt romney did say one time that he didn't want to see too much of her people might get a little tired of her. >> a record night on twitter during wednesday's presidential debate, they set a record 10.3 million tweets were fired off during the debate. the highest point was jim lehrer said let's not when mitt romney wanted to move on to another topic. >> ben knows this because he head all of those tweets. >> exactly. there were people all over the country talking about his tweets. we'll talk

conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs number. former general electric ceo jack welch wrote "unbelievable job numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change the numbers. >> it's ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> reporter: secretary of labor denies any political motivations a saying the numbers are real. while romney launches tv ad as promising to do better than president obama. >> i have a detailed plan to create 12 million new jobs. >> reporter: obama is celebrating this report. >> this country has come too far to turn back now. >> reporter: a benchmark, he says, proves america is on the right track. economists say the number of new jobs being created is not enough to significantly lower the unemployment rate. the next jobs report comes out in four days before the election. reporting live on capitol hill, i'm danielle lee, news 4. >> our team coverage of the presidential election takes us to opposite cornerses of virginia. while governor romney was in coal country in abington, president obama was in fairfax. the president talked a

the obama administration manipulated the numbers. but on cnbc, labor secretary hilda solis called that claim "ludicrous" and defended the bureau of labor statistics. >> you know, i'm insulted when i hear that,ecause we have a very professional civil service organization where you have top, top economists that work at the b.l.s. >> brown: the employment numbers landed as the campaigns put up new ads attacking each other on jobs and taxes. >> president obama says he's creating jobs. but he's really creating debt. the facts are clear. obama's four deficits are the four largest in u.s. history. he's adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents combined. and over 30 cents of every dollar obama spends is borrowed, much of it from countries like china. he's not just wasting money; he's borrowing it and then wasting it. we can't afford four more years. >> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because, according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class, or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him he

the debate. >> reporter: president obama could have new worries today when the monthly jobs numbers are released economists predict the unemployment rate could go up from 8.1 to 8.2%. tahman bradley, washington. >>> mitt romney's wife ann has been booked as a guest host on "good morning america" next week she will fill in for robin. the appearance is set for wednesday october 10th. abc7 news is in discussions with the first lady for a similar appearance when her schedule allows. >>> something else that could influence voters, new film about the raid and killing of bin laden last year. the movie seal team 6, will air sunday november 4th, two days before the presidential election on the national geographic channel. it is distributed by hollywood heavyweight harvey wine -- harvey weinstein's company. they say the air date is not related to politics. >>> busy weekend ahead. lots of things to do. what is the weather going to be like? >>> it looks good fog is going to thin out so the marine layer not much of a factor this morning we are looking at low clouds and fog many september that ni

the obama administration manipulated the numbers to take advantage of them. investors, positive on wall street seems to be muted. dow up 46 points s&p fast in the -- s&p and nasdaq in the green. zynga shares down 20% cut forecast for key metrics good predictor of future bookings. zynga makes most of its money selling the virtual goods the players use and struggling with slower growth as users spend more time on mobile devices. have you don't your holiday shopping yet? survey says 40% of bargain hunters are already doing holiday shopping. more than 70% of early birds have a dismal view of the economy. many worry about being able to make purchases in the coming months. live at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >>> hrar is in for mike. cloudy start again. >>> a little mix from our roof camera, pretty sunrise if you are around the bay and checking in, happening officially at 7:09, setting at 6:46, due to low clouds, airport delays this will mix out we'll see nice afternoon nice weekend live doppler 7 hd right now dry, low clouds, higher clouds monday maybe a few raindrops from our

unemployment numbers dropping and -- for wednesday's debate. if for president obama, it was a much needed shot in the arm. >> this morning, we found out the unemployment rate fell to its lowest levelness is i took office. >> reporter: -- level since i took office. >> reporter: the president held up the new 7.8% unemployment rate as proof that his policies are working. >> and today's news is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score political points but a reminder the country has come too far to turn back now. >> reporter: across the state, mitt romney casts doubt on the numbers. >> the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today, on the day that the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11% and that is the real reality of what is happening out there. >> reporter: the president's fairfax speech had been aimed at the women issues. >> and i don't think a working mom in arlington should wait to get a mammogram because money is tight. i don't think a college studentsho should have to choose between text books or the prevent

went down. this is about as good as the numbers have been since barack obama has been president. so, will it help? i couldn't say for sure. but i'll tell you one thing, it is sure not going to hurt. >> that's exactly right. you'll also have former baseball manager on face the nation this sunday and i know that everybody here in washington can agree on one thing. that is, the nationals are in the playoffs. we are excited about it. you're a big nats fan. let me make you jealous because i was at the stadium in the locker room when they clinched last week. how about that? >> wow. that is great. by the way, i should add that we're going to have tony la russa. we're going to have dodger legend e tommy lasorta. we'll have jane who wrote that great biography of mickey manet l and one of my favorite observers and writers of baseball, peter gammons who is going to be with us. we are not going to be talking about the debates or politics. we'll talk about politics in the first half of the show when david action axlerod will have writers. but we just decided with the nats going to the playoff

the target of the anti-obama crowd, because i didn't call into question how the unemployment number got below 8%, i didn't suggest that number might have been rigged to look good for president obama. i was pillared as a house man owned by the democrats. please! look, my philosophy is crystal clear. you can't look through it. don't bother. you can't question its authenticity. you can't say it's political, and more importantly, can't question its legitimacy for one party without questioning it the other. i understand the accusations from partisan people. they feel robbed of one of the best talking points, unemployment rate stubbornly above 8%, to attack those who accept the number and don't offhandedly accept it is wrong is outrageous. i don't like how the number is put together. i would outsource the compilation number, and you can calculate data much faster and more efficiently. i look at the labor department the way i looked at replacement referees in the nfl. terrible, but nonpartisan, equal-opportunity mistake makers. the numbers i take at face value for obama and the same way i did for th

obama in debate number two, he can still keep it cool and classy while letting biden go all the way off the leash. but even before the first presidential debate, the match-up between the two guys on the bottom of the tickets promise to be a must-watched event. what we saw in the debate between president obama and governor romney was an exchange of ideas. both share a practical approach to stimulating economic growth but have different ways of getting us there. the two guys that we're going to be watching on thursday, pragmatism doesn't begin to describe them. pugilistic, not pragmatic describes these guys. get ready for a clash of the i had i can't logs. they're champions of the sweet science of political and economic thought of their respective parties. the golden boy of the economic doctrine. ryan the self-described -- the architect of the conservative platform, upon which the gop now stands. the plan to slash the deficit by gutting social programs and his party is saying he built that. in the other corner, a granddaddy of the base. 29 years old, joe biden became one of the youngest p

through the latest jobs numbers to make the case president obama has not hit pay dirt just yet. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate as you noted this year has come down very, very slowly but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> reporter: still, one of romney's key metrics on the president's handling of the economy went up in smoke when the nation's unemployment rate dipped below 8%. >> 8% unemployment for over how many, 43 months? we still have unemployment above 8%. he told us he would get us back to work and hold unemployment below 8%. unemployment above 8% month after month after month. >> reporter: it's a political bar romney has repeatedly accused the president of failing to clear for months. a threshold the gop nominee repeated in his closing statement at the first presidential debate. >> we had had 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%. if i'm president, i will create -- help create 12 mill

reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> needless to say this ray of economic sunshine is punting a dent in governor romney's plan to end the week on top. how is the republican nominee reacting spinning away saying quote -- >> but other obama critics, perhaps furious that good economic news might derail the romney swagger, instead they opted for conspiracy theories regarding the satitions behind the unemployment numbers. former chairman and ceo of ge jack welch tweeted -- welch was backed in his theorizing by master of the outlandish alan west who wrote -- this is orwellian to say the least and representative of saul au lin ski tactics from the book rules for radicals" a must read for a

want this race to take? >> the think is president obama was saved by those job numbers on friday. once you have numbers that good, the mantra can swing back to the president regaining momentum realizing he didn't have a good day. i think you will see the narrative shift back to the president. >> there you again you have 114,000 jobs created that. is not enough to keep up with population growth. doesn't keep up with population growth but the headline the president is talking about the fact we're going in the right direction. >> critics of the obama administration three years induce new metrics, labor force participation rate. there are other metrics that are much more discouraging. as long as the unemployment number becomes the single metric the administration benefits. >> as opposed to housing starts which is very low. >> jon: we'll have to leave it there. has the media finally caught up with the libya terror attacks? >> let's establish all the facts before we jump to any conclusions. >> administration is still tap dancing around the details about the deadly attacks in libya. why aren'

obama will have the edge tonight. of course, we can say what we want to about the poll numbers and what the american public will see, but we won't know the answer until 11:00 this evening. >> mark preston down in denver, can you feel the electricity already? >> absolutely. it is early here, john, but it is starting to ramp up, no doubt. >> great. we'll talk to you again. >>> look for a couple corks beyond what they just say in delivery tone and body language are as important to voters as the substance of what the candidate is saying, to some voters. here's what to watch for as body language experts say when mitt romney is agitated, his arms fail around a bit. and president obama has a tendency to go on and on. he's long-winded and both candidates do well when they are standing at podiums. now in the next half hour of "early start," we'll break down what each candidate has to establish with richard socarides and erick erickson. >> i'm a little nervous for them. >> this is the super bowl right now. >>> a pennsylvania judge has temporarily blocked a key component of that state's new voter

they thought. and barack obama comes out on top. as we quickly look at this number -- >> by a lot. >> -- most people think barack obama is going to win tonight's debate by a lot. who knows who's going to win. a lot of people forget mitt romney had 20 presidential debates under his belt in this past republican presidential primary, but barack obama, former law professor from harvard, does pretty well behind the podium. we'll know the answer about 11:00 eastern time tonht. >> you excited? >> i'm very excited. i'm up right now. it's 4:00 right now in denver. i'm not the only one up getting ready for tonight's debate. >> mark preston live for us in denver. thank you very much. >>> in tonight's debates some say you should look for quirks with candidates. to some viewers, delivery, tone, body language can be just as important as the substance of what some candidates say. when mitt romney is agitated, they say his arms apparently flail a bit. also president obama has an issue with long windedness. some debate watchers say that about him. both candidates seem to do well when they are standing behind

one. number ten was barack obama. >>> and as the supreme court starts its fall term, justice ruth bader ginsbebegin ginsburg oldest on the supreme court. you probably did not know gin gingsburg and scalia spend every new years with reach over's family welcoming in the new year. >>> and now here's a look at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow closed at 13,437. the s&p lost six. the nasdaq was down 20. taking a look at overseas trading, in tokyo, the nikkei dropped 73 points, while in hong kong, the hang seng was closed for a holiday. >>> as a new quarter begins and presidential candidates prepare to square off, economic data will be of particular interest to wall street and main street this week. the labor department's september employment report comes out friday, but will be high on investors' agenda all week. fed chair ben bernanke's latest take on the economy will also get a lot of attention when minutes from the federal reserve's latest policy meeting are released. september auto sales are also on tap. some experts predict sales are up nearly 11% over last year. >>>

of private sector job growth, bringing the total number of private sector jobs created under president obama over 4.6 million and the unemployment rate dropping .3 of a point to 7.8%. the rate is now below when the president took over when the george w. bush cataclysm was gaining steam. shouldn't we all be overjoyed? not if you're hyper partisan voice of corporate plutocacy like jack welch who tweeted out the following message. unbelievable jobs numbers these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. come on, jack. the notion of the department of labor plays games with these numbers for political reasons is silly ludicrous and insulting to government workers who have reported news, good and bad faithfully for many decades. it strikes me, jack, that there have been a few more cases of corporate gamesmanship with financial numbers than cases where the government was not honest in the past few years. in fact, didn't your company g.e. have an accounting issue that led to a big sec settlement not so long ago? now that you've made this outlandish claim, where is your proof, yo

the previous year. the lowest number since 1999. hispanic births were down 6%. 2% down for african-americans. followup on last night's story about the obama administration urging defense contractors not to issue legally required layoff notices despite impending cuts due to the budget impasse. known as the sequestration. mike emanuel has the update. >> by law they're required to issue layoff notices to employees they may need to cut if the half trillion in automatic cuts known as sequestration take effect january 2. the obama administration told contractors they don't need to follow the warn act issuing layoff notices 60 days out and offered to pay for legal bills if the contractors are later sued. one legal expert says it's not following the spirit of the law. >> the administration is saying until it gives the companies specific numbers, it's not triggered. ultimately, the administration would likely prevail but it would be a close question. >> the warn act designed to protect "workers, fair families and communities requiring employers with 100 or more employees to provide 60 calen

negative numbers in the polls for president obama. >> well, for romney to have a chance, there better be. because that is the issue that is central. he had been gaining ground on the issue in a way a lot of people thought wasn't possible. if he has begun to retreat, romney needs that to happen. he needs to emerge from the whole campaign, the debates part of them as the person with the ability and the stronger plan for the economy. because this is not an economy that people find to their liking. not agreeable to people. that is where romney needs to be strong. >> bret: chuck, their target audience tonight? >> maybe state of ohio. i really mean that. without ohio, romney, most scenarios just can't win. he is going to have to come up with a message that tips ohio his way, and doesn't leigh out or ail yep nate anyone else -- alienate anyone else. he does seem to be trailing by a significant margin in ohio. i think he is going to have to do something that reaches out to the state. just to pick up on what brit said about the economy i was interested to hear eric fehrnstrom decide the election

from barack obama a lot of crazy numbers and wild -- wild claims. that is not going to happen. >> jennifer: you know what is interesting -- i imagine, peter -- i'm sorry to interrupt -- but i am imagining, during the debates they all have these big fact checking war rooms. i imagine the fact checking war room where nobody is doing anything. it's a boring night for the fact checkers on the president's side. >> yeah, absolutely. >> jennifer: you are going to stick around, right? >> absolutely. >> jennifer: after the break we are also going to get a republican take on the new romney talking points. duf sundheim is going to tell us whether he actually framed this memo and hung it on his wall or lined his bird cage with it. plus what do president obama and mitt romney's previous debate experiences tell us about what might happen on wednesday (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only net

and be impervious. but he was going up against a number of people.% obama, if he adopted that strategy, he was going up against one person and it didn't work at all. what david was saying about 47% this is a silver lining thing but the 47% conversation leads itself to a town hall type of debate, which is what the next debate will be like. >> cenk: they'll come out much harder. please tell me that they learned their lesson. >> i think the president will come out, but romney has mojo now. he has confidence and he'll carry that into the next debate. >> cenk: will it make a difference. >> in the short term the debate will make a difference. i don't think it's an enduring change. even today you see the people first of all i saw a poll on cnn, 67% to 25% as we talked about. who are the 25% that felt the president won the debate. >> cenk: well, partisans. they're going to say obama won no matter what. >> what mitt romney is doing which will not go by is the politics of a wink and a nod. he's looking at his right wing and say let me get there. i'll do what you want me to do. in order to get there and to win

media to accuse the obama administration of doctoring those numbers. republican nominee mitt romney did not go that far, but did say the reason for drop in the unemployment rate is because americans have just stopped looking for work. >>> the mom accused of abandoning her 10-year-old daughter inside of a local safeway store after a botched shoplifting attempt was in court today. and nbc bay area has learned investigators believe this mom did the same thing just go weeks earlier and got away with it. the prosecutor says marci ariko pulled the same stunt at the same morgan hill safeway store. the difference is the first time she allegedly went into the store with her daughter instead of waiting outside the whole time. a loss prevention officer with the store said he recognized both mom and daughter the second time around. today she was officially charged with a felony count of commercial burglary and a misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. >> you know, it's a very sad situation, very sad. i mean it's the -- it's the person who is supposed to be nurturing you, an

were upset with president obama about health care a number of other things and who got thrown out of office. democrats. which democrats? mostly the southern blue dog democrats, the moderate ones, so the very folks, the moderate republicans from the northeast and the conservative democrats from the south that are most inclined to come up with some sort of deal have been pretty much wiped out of office so you have a very, very divided congress where there's no real incentive election-wise to find the middle. >> it doesn't pay to be in the middle. doesn't pay to be in the middle if you're in washington. peter morici is a professor of international business and dan gross is a global business editor at "newsweek" and "the daily beast." here's what the labor marked the looks like right now, these jobs. this is what it looks like. the unemployment rate is now 7.8%. that's the lowest since early 2009. 114,000 jobs created in september. not a lot, not great, but it is still a jobs growth. 40% of the people who are unemployed have been out of work for six months or longer. that's long-term

-- >> schieffer: david letterman thought the problem ran deeper. >> and the number one president obama excuse, it's bush's fault. >> schieffer: the president's top vast gist, david axelrod, is with us this morning. we'll ask him about it. and we'll hear from conservative columnist john fund and michael gerson of the "washington post." analysis from our own norah o'donnell and john dickerson. then with the baseball post-accept under way and washington's team headed to the play-offs for the first time in 79 years, we'll talk baseball with the dodgers' legendary tony larussa, tony lasorda, manager of last year's world-champion st. louis cardinals. jane leavy, who literally wrote the book on mickey mantle. and peter gammons of the mlb network. it's batter up on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and good morning, again. welcome to peacethe nation. david axelrod, of course, is a senior campaign strategist, the senior campaign strategist for president obama. thank you for coming this morning. and we're joined b

it anxiety for them today. this is the way the obama campaign tried to react. number one, they put out the first tv ad calling mitt romney dishonest. david plouffe, the senior strategist, used the word dishonest or not being honest, nearly a dozen times when briefing reporters this afternoon. so they're trying to put the focus on mitt romney and saying hey, he gave a great performance, but wasn't exactly honest. it was rally therapy out here though, brian. he did have 30,000 people show up in madison. >> chuck todd, peter alexander wrapping it up for us tonight. thanks. >>> we have two big and still developing stories tonight having to do with how we all get around. on the east coast and the west, beginning with new troubles for american airlines. and for that, we want to go to tom costello. >> american airlines is sayingisaying i they are going to ground all 48 of the suspect 747s that have the seats that are becoming disconnected. they will be grounded as soon as they land. the airline says its mechanics now believe they've discovered the real problem that caused some seats to become

and president obama with that new unemployment number back to where it was when he took office teaming up with bill clinton in california and clinton will be on the campaign trail all week and this as a new gallup poll showing the tighter race after the debate. president obama up by 3 points after being up by 6 at his peak. abc's david kerley is on the campaign trail in florida tonight. >> reporter: 9,000 flag-waving romney supporters jammed the town square, 6,000 last night, all ready to turn the president out of office. >> you all have the chance to hear his answers or his not -- nonanswers. now, of course, days later we're hearing his excuses and next january we'll be watching him leave the white house for the last time. >> reporter: team romney is feeling his debate performance. the president obama is realizing he didn't perform at his peak. >> i think you can assume he reviewed the tape and it will inform -- it will inform how he handles these subsequent debates. >> reporter: it wasn't all bad news, the president was buoyed by the dp in the unemployment rate to below 8% and broke his

greek 100. it is so good. ♪ >>> they're prepping, coaching and studying for debate number one. president obama and mitt romney getting ready for wednesday night's face-off. it takes place in denver. both men facing challenges. neither is known for being a stellar debater. aides say the president doesn't like to talk in sound bites and can come off as patronizing. romney's advisers say he can sound out of touch with the voters. the topic this time is domestic policy ask the moderator is news hour host jim lehrer. >>> a victim of the aurora theater shooting is calling on mitt romney and president obama to address gun control during the debate. >> it was this past summer in a movie theater, i was shot in the face and neck. >> that's stephen barton featured in a new national tv ad paid for by a group called united against illegal gun support fund. the group says it is disappointed about. the candidates haven't addressed gun violence in a concrete and specific way. it is unlikely that topic will be brought up unless the question comes from the moderator. critics point out the weapons used in

in the show. for now the presidential campaign has been reshaped in a number of ways. is is the way obama achieved this milestone is very nonsocialist, actually. under obama the economy has created about $ 967,000 private sector jobs. so if obama is in fact a socialist, he's not very good at it. second in, romney's standard stump speech, we've now had quote 43 street months with ununemployment over 8%. we are now under 8%. and third, this is probably the most important for the campaign. the debate was only two days ago. today is friday. the debate was wednesday. but this is a big enough jobs report, striking enough, that it has turned the whole national conversation. romney could have used a few more days of momentum. now instead of having a weekend where anyone can talk about his debate, the jobs report is dominating the headlines. >> joining me now is a senior fellow and was a member of the president obama's debt commission. she knows more about budgets i think than anyone in the world. and sam stein political editor and white house correspondent. thank you for being here. >> alice, 7.8

anything. can't debate so change numbers. >> i wish i could say that the assertion that the obama campaign in chicago convinced the labor department to cook the books was universally decried. it was not. we have much more on the birth of the jobbers, a new american conspiracy theory coming up later in the show. for now the presidential campaign has been reshaped in a number of ways. is is the way obama achieved this milestone is very nonsocialist, actually. under obama the economy has created about 967,000 private sector jobs. so if obama is in fact a socialist, he's not very good at it. second in, romney's standard stump speech, we've now had quote 43 street months with unemployment over 8%. we are now under 8%. and third, this is probably the most important for the campaign. the debate was only two days ago. today is friday. the debate was wednesday. but this is a big enough jobs report, striking enough, that it has turned the whole national conversation. romney could have used a few more days of momentum. now instead of having a weekend where anyone can talk about his debate, the jobs r

conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs numbers. former general electric ceo jack welch wrote "unbelievable job numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change the numbers." >> it's really ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> reporter: secretary of labor denies any political motivation saying the numbers are real. so, while romney launches tv ads promising to do better than president obama -- >> i have a detailed plan to create 12 million new jobs. >> reporter: obama is celebrating this report. >> this country has come too far to turn back now. >> reporter: a benchmark, he says, proves america is on the right track. economists say the number of new jobs being created is still not enough to significantly lower the unemploit rate. the next jobs report comes out just four days before the election. reporting live on capitol hill, i'm danielle lee, news 4. >>> health officials across the country are bracing for more cases of infection from that fungal meningitis outbreak. today the virginia department of health says about 630 people received

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